GPU is unknown. And Nokia has said that Symbian will be supported till 2016. Given that many Android vendors do few updates to their phones after release, this is much better support.
Symbian might be supported till 2016 but does that mean any real updates? Will it ever be able to fight against Android, iOS and WP7? Windows XP is still officially supported but when was the last time XP got a new feature? I think Symbian will get some updates, that is sure, but those will mainly be bug and security updates.
There will be another major update after Belle and i don't know if you have used Belle, but it's pretty amazing. The performance it's able to get out of a N8, is nothing short but breathtaking. To get the same feel as Belle (from a 680Mhz ARM11 device), you'll need a 1Ghz A9 Android device. Anna made my N8 feel twice as fast and Belle is twice as fast as Anna. The memory footprint has shrunk considerably compared to Anna. Having +10 apps open causes no major slowdowns (on my N8 with 256MB ram and these new phones have 512MB). Basically i think Symbian can get away with half the memory compared to Android.
I figured out that the GPU is the Broadcom BCM2763. Nokia mentioned that these new phones pack a new gpu with four times the video ram. Since the BCM2727 embeds 32MB of ram and the BCM2763 128MB, you don't need to look any further. BTW, this is something most people don't know. These Nokia phones have dedicated video ram unlike any other phone. The BCM2763 should be able to hit 1GPixel just like the SGX540 @ 200Mhz. It will for sure be faster than the Hummingbird implementation. OMAP4 should be faster than this though.
Just because Elop wants you to think that Symbian is a 'burning platform', doesn't make it true. Ovi Store downloads are growing faster than any other platform. http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/...
Just this summer Nokia gave away +20 games for free (including Angry Birds Rio, The Sims 3 HD, The Settlers HD, ...). This is my first Nokia phone but things like this make me want to buy Nokia again.
I still need to get Anna from my carrier, which hasn't happened yet. And from the videos I have seen it's a big leap forward in terms of smooth GUI.
At least they are not giving up on me :) Also I find symbian OS not so bad at all, I've actually became used to it and like the simple things and easy menu's
When I saw these specs, I assumed we were talking $50 phones destined for Africa and poor Asia. $400!!! Yeah, Nokia, good luck selling these.
(On the plus side, maybe in three weeks they'll be going for $79 at Best Buy, and people will scoop them up, happy with the knowledge that they got a "bargain", and under the illusion that one day someone will get Android running on them.)
I'm sure this is without a contract, but I don't think you'll see any of these stateside either way. Anyway, if you use one and it is more responsive than an equivalent Android device, does it matter what its clocks and raw numbers are? From an end user perspective, they only care what it does and how well it does it, not what circuitry lies inside the magic box.
Not ridiculous, but real. I always find it hilarious when people think they really get the iPhone for $199, and then end up paying like $30 a month for two years. You usually end up paying more when buying with a contract (though in US, you seem to have no choice).
FYI, iPhone 4 16GB is 599€ here, so these are less than 50% of that.
1) This will recieve a lot more *official* support than the Touchpad ever will.
2) You got a firesale Touchpad for dirt chip and you're COMPLAINING? Give it to me, you ungrateful whelp. I'll run it as is, and maybe I'll slap Android on it some day.
OK maybe that came off a little harsh. I take back the ungrateful whelp part. But seriously - a firesale Touchpad is far from pointless. If you have no use for it, you can turn around and sell it at a 50% markup for immediate profit. If you have a use for it, you get a powerful decent-sized tablet for less than the cost of the smallest, crappiest tablets out there.
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codedivine - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
CPU is ARM11 1GHz and RAM is 512MB.More details here: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devices/Device_spec...
GPU is unknown. And Nokia has said that Symbian will be supported till 2016. Given that many Android vendors do few updates to their phones after release, this is much better support.
Kristian Vättö - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
Thanks, I have updated the article.Symbian might be supported till 2016 but does that mean any real updates? Will it ever be able to fight against Android, iOS and WP7? Windows XP is still officially supported but when was the last time XP got a new feature? I think Symbian will get some updates, that is sure, but those will mainly be bug and security updates.
milli - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
There will be another major update after Belle and i don't know if you have used Belle, but it's pretty amazing. The performance it's able to get out of a N8, is nothing short but breathtaking. To get the same feel as Belle (from a 680Mhz ARM11 device), you'll need a 1Ghz A9 Android device. Anna made my N8 feel twice as fast and Belle is twice as fast as Anna. The memory footprint has shrunk considerably compared to Anna. Having +10 apps open causes no major slowdowns (on my N8 with 256MB ram and these new phones have 512MB). Basically i think Symbian can get away with half the memory compared to Android.You can check out this video to get a small clue of what Belle is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZePeLU_VZ8
I figured out that the GPU is the Broadcom BCM2763. Nokia mentioned that these new phones pack a new gpu with four times the video ram. Since the BCM2727 embeds 32MB of ram and the BCM2763 128MB, you don't need to look any further. BTW, this is something most people don't know. These Nokia phones have dedicated video ram unlike any other phone.
The BCM2763 should be able to hit 1GPixel just like the SGX540 @ 200Mhz. It will for sure be faster than the Hummingbird implementation. OMAP4 should be faster than this though.
Just because Elop wants you to think that Symbian is a 'burning platform', doesn't make it true. Ovi Store downloads are growing faster than any other platform.
http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/...
Just this summer Nokia gave away +20 games for free (including Angry Birds Rio, The Sims 3 HD, The Settlers HD, ...). This is my first Nokia phone but things like this make me want to buy Nokia again.
radium69 - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
I still need to get Anna from my carrier, which hasn't happened yet. And from the videos I have seen it's a big leap forward in terms of smooth GUI.At least they are not giving up on me :)
Also I find symbian OS not so bad at all, I've actually became used to it and like the simple things and easy menu's
Also it still is fast.
michaelklachko - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
Is that a joke?B3an - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
These are not high-end phones. Mid-range.luv2liv - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
does ATT force data plan on Nokia smartphone???i cant seem to find a straight answer on this.
worthy_p - Saturday, November 19, 2011 - link
some of u tlkng lyk rysstsname99 - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
When I saw these specs, I assumed we were talking $50 phones destined for Africa and poor Asia. $400!!!Yeah, Nokia, good luck selling these.
(On the plus side, maybe in three weeks they'll be going for $79 at Best Buy, and people will scoop them up, happy with the knowledge that they got a "bargain", and under the illusion that one day someone will get Android running on them.)
Alexvrb - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
I'm sure this is without a contract, but I don't think you'll see any of these stateside either way. Anyway, if you use one and it is more responsive than an equivalent Android device, does it matter what its clocks and raw numbers are? From an end user perspective, they only care what it does and how well it does it, not what circuitry lies inside the magic box.radium69 - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
They are sim unlocked phones ;) Their prices aren't ridiculous as far as I'm concerned.Kristian Vättö - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
Not ridiculous, but real. I always find it hilarious when people think they really get the iPhone for $199, and then end up paying like $30 a month for two years. You usually end up paying more when buying with a contract (though in US, you seem to have no choice).FYI, iPhone 4 16GB is 599€ here, so these are less than 50% of that.
nbrenner - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
Well, I just bought a TouchPad, so maybe this could be my next pointless purchase of a fun unsupported device.Alexvrb - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
1) This will recieve a lot more *official* support than the Touchpad ever will.2) You got a firesale Touchpad for dirt chip and you're COMPLAINING? Give it to me, you ungrateful whelp. I'll run it as is, and maybe I'll slap Android on it some day.
Alexvrb - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
OK maybe that came off a little harsh. I take back the ungrateful whelp part. But seriously - a firesale Touchpad is far from pointless. If you have no use for it, you can turn around and sell it at a 50% markup for immediate profit. If you have a use for it, you get a powerful decent-sized tablet for less than the cost of the smallest, crappiest tablets out there.Alexvrb - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
Who am I kidding, I just looked around, you could sell it for double or maybe even more.X-Nemesis - Wednesday, August 24, 2011 - link
I guess the n9 is the only phone that Nokia is bringing out that has a higher resolution than 640x360?Kristian Vättö - Thursday, August 25, 2011 - link
All WP7 phones should have better since MS requires at least 480x800 resohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Phone#System_...
kurac - Saturday, September 10, 2011 - link
N900 has a WVGA resolution.