Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Preview: The Desktop Gets a 1333MHz FSB
by Anand Lal Shimpi on June 25, 2007 2:57 AM EST- Posted in
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The Test
With the 1333MHz vs. 1066MHz FSB issue laid to rest, the rest of this article will be a recap of AMD vs. Intel performance. We compared the E6750, E6700 and E6420 from Intel to the X2 6000+ and 5600+ from AMD. The 5600+ is closest in price to the E6420, while the 6000+ is the closest AMD offers to something at the E6700 price level.
Note that SYSMark 2007 only runs on 32-bit versions of Windows, so all of the tests for this article were conducted under Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit.
| CPU: | AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ (3.0GHz/1MBx2) AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ (2.8GHz/1MBx2) Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 (2.66GHz/1333MHz) Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 (2.66GHz/1066MHz) Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 (2.13GHz/1066MHz) |
| Motherboard: | Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R (Intel P35) ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe (nForce 590 SLI) |
| Chipset: | Intel P35 NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI |
| Chipset Drivers: | Intel 8.1.1.1010 (Intel) Integrated Vista Drivers (NVIDIA) |
| Hard Disk: | Seagate 7200.9 300GB SATA |
| Memory: | Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 (1GB x 2) |
| Video Card: | NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX |
| Video Drivers: | NVIDIA ForceWare 158.18 |
| Desktop Resolution: | 1600 x 1200 |
| OS: | Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit |
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zsdersw - Monday, June 25, 2007 - link
That's the P35 chipset. The article coldpower was pointing to is P965.. and he said modified his statement with "here", meaning "in the article mentioned".TA152H - Monday, June 25, 2007 - link
So you think that's relevant? People are going to buy 1333 FSB for the P965???? Again, are you crazy? P965 doesn't even support 1333 officially. P35 is what's important.zsdersw - Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - link
And besides.. the marginal improvement in overall system performance that P35 brings to the table doesn't prove or reliably suggest that Core 2 is particularly dependent on memory bandwidth or speed.TA152H - Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - link
You're seriously confused.Most of the information out now shows that you get pretty good performance with higher performance memory running at high clock speeds, especially for DDR3. It's now becoming common knowledge. But, they test DDR2-800 for some reason. To really see the performance of 1333 FSB, they should be using it with the proper memory instead of obsolete memory running at inadequate clock speeds. Luckily, there is another site that promised to do that in the very near future. Why they couldn't figure that out here is a mystery to me though, it kind of hits one in the face.
zsdersw - Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - link
That's the expectation: higher performance with memory running at higher speeds. None of that suggests that Core 2's performance hinges upon extracting more and more out of the memory/chipset, though.zsdersw - Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - link
.. or, rather, that Core 2's performance depends on extracting more and more out of the memory/chipset.zsdersw - Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - link
All I'm saying is that you're barking up the wrong tree. coldpower's reference was to the P965, and then you started talking about P35 as if it had something to do with the results of the P965. They're separate.TA152H - Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - link
Are you unable to understand things in context?? Or are you arguing just to argue?The P965 is irrelevant, therefore his post is irrelevant, and therefore he has no point. The P965 doesn't matter for FSB 1333 processors, the P35 does.
My point was that they should be running memory at 1333 speeds, which means the P35. He brought up some nonsense that was irrelevant, and now you think that it was, and the P35 isn't. It's like the Twilight Zone.
coldpower27 - Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - link
No, my post is completely relevant, if your going to argue about official support on the P965 for 1.33GHZ FSB processors then DDR3-1333 is rejected to it being not officially supported by the P35 Express chipset, the only chipset to have official support for that is X38.If you need to prod others then I believe it's you who are the one that can't stand losing an argument.
zsdersw - Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - link
An established chipset on which the Core 2 processors run is not irrelevant to the issue he was addressing: Core 2 performance vis-a-vis memory bandwidth/speed.